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>> i've got 30 -- what's a better way than screaming and yelling and calling people garbage? >> incredible support, positive, you know, optimistic forward-looking praise balanced by fierce accountability, holding people accountable to a focused effort. >> that's actually what we do. >> you're the man. >> on my good days. thank you very much, tony. >> thank you. >> tony sh wartsz, excellent at anything. i'm dylan. and hard ball's up right now. fighting words. let's play hardball. good evening. i'm chris matthews. up in north words and actions. are people affected by what they hear? if not, why do they speak in if the messages people get day after day have no effect on
their behave why do millions spend millions on advertising. there's a daily climate of attack, cob stand tonight of angry attack, loyalty, le jij macy and americanism churn people up. the politically correct judgment is that we can't blame anyone for what we've seen recently, that words don't matener this discussion of people's violent actions, but do we really believe that words don't matter, that they don't incite, that they don't cause trouble. >> do we really believe that? michael hirsch has written a cover article that no assassin in an island. the history of this country has proven turbulent political times have often given way to political violence and it doesn't just happen once. look at the 196. jfk, dr. king. rfk, malcolm x. so is it time for politician to rethink how they talk about their opponents in public?
is it time to do away with the killing metaphors and gun talk? that's our top story tonight. plus joe lieberman is exiting politics, stage right, you might say. while he's committed his fair of net destruction, that's power. tonight, who's next on the list. and it was the most talked about column. the essay by a chinese-american mother who has raised two academic super stars who had a brutal regimen, all work, and no play. the author saying american kids are failing, falling behind because the western parents, that's us, are soft and per missive. all of those feeds into some people's fears that the united states is losing its competitive edge in the world to china. and tonight we look at perhaps the most famous political call to duty in political history. >> ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your
country. [ applause ] >> well, since jack kennedy's famous inaugural address 50 years ago, many have wondered about the famous "ask not" phrase. tonight i'll show you a source way back in jack kennedy's past. let me finish tonight with kennedy's call to duty and how it had done something to one person and to other people that had never been done before. it got people off their butts. it asked them to get involved. let's start with the connection between political rhetoric and violence. and with is us michael hirsch of "the national journal." he wrote this week's cover story why political violence erupts. let's start with michael hirsch and your view. give me your sense of the connection here between this wild talk from the birthers about the president not being one of us, not being american, the very i would argue open topic of guns all the time by people like sarah palin.
what's the connection between talk of guns, talk of hatred of government, and action with guns against government? >> well, there's no hard and fast connection, chris. i reported this. we went to the fbi, the behavioral sciences unit in quantico and asked them. they said they had. really studied it, but a number of his torials and psychologists said going back to the beginning there is ooh correlation between times of very heated division and rhetoric and political violence. and, you know, i think you've seen it here. i think it really is a bit much to think that the 8th district of arizona where kojswoman giffords was was only -- you know, was just a coincidence that it happened to be a mecca for prejudice and bigotry as the pima county sheriff clarence
dupe kin said. calling the other side, you know, a fraudulent american, in effect, the berther movement does with president obama that you're going to be, you know, insighting someone who perhaps does not have all his wits about him out there to think that the country would thank him or her if they tooka. >> mayor brown let's get back to your mindset back in the 1960s. i remember the fears on behalf of john kennedy before he ever went to dallas, a fear that the right would get him, some race would get him. it turns out a deranged communist sympathizer did the job. but the sense that bobby kennedy was talking about it and martin luther king was talkinging about it on the carson show about what was facing him. and they don't come out of nowhere. >> no, they don't come out of
nowhere. we politicians know exactly what we're trying to generate when we make our speeches and when we make our words. we do intend to have our audience react and follow our leadership by electing us to the position which we seek all by embracing whatever we're advocating. we don't accept the idea that violence comes as a result of it, but in reality in some cases it does and we ought to accept it. >> let's take a look at some los angeles he-- lan language here. talking about repealing the president. language that sounds pretty definite. le o's take a look at michele bachmann and what she had to say last night in congress. let's listen. >> obama care as we know is the crown jewel of socialism. it is socialized medicine.
and to those across the united states who think this may be a sim bottic act, we have a message for them. this is not symbolic. this is why we were sent here. and we will not stop until we repeal a president and put a president in the position of the white house who will repeal this bill, until we repeal the current senate, put in a senate that will listen to the american people and repeal this bill. >> i haven't heard language like. th this. i'm sorry. this isn't necessarily incendiary but it's so final. we're not arguing health care. we're talking about eliminating a presidency. getting rid of this guy in the next presidency. of course, that's what she means. the way it comes across, it's so fundamental and so total of opposition. and i want to go back to some other things that pal lynn
always talks about, reloading. this ballistic language ore and over. what do you think it means? what does it do? >> i agree it's extremely incendiary are and you have to wonder how it affects less stable minds out there. but there's an important distinction to be made out there, chris. hook, harsh rhetoric goes back to the beginnings of public, the battles among the founders themselves, madison and hamilton, very extreme rhetoric. thomas jefferson, you know, actually hired a spinmeister of his time, james tallinder to do dirt on john adams during their battles. >> and ericberg killed alexander hamilton. what a standard that was. what did sarah palin's infinite intelligence say? we're better off than duellers. >> we don't want any more duellers. thankfully that was the last one. the point i was trying to make is you can draw a line,
particularly in the certain kind of use of met fors, killing, murdering, taking out which is another met for that michele bachmann used in one of her statements. sharron angle's now infamous comment about second amendment remedies to deal with the problem of hearr harry reid, he opponent. that's what we have to think about. to we really want to continue to use that kind of language at these levels or should there be kind of a social sanction, not a legal one but a moral way this the way we stop using the epithets. stop using that kind of language. >> i wish the nra which has a lot of influence over people do something simple like say we have a right to bear arms it's in the constitution but stop bringing guns to political events. how's that for a start? why bring a gun to a political ee haven't? i've never understood what role it will play.
what will happen that will require the use of that weapon? what could happen? you don't bring a gun to no reason. i could see carrying a gun in a tricky neighborhood perhaps or carrying something or whatever, i can see a guard on a truck carrying one what is this about bringing dwuns into a political debate? >> well, it's obviously what is intended to be a fear factor. they intend to intimidate their opposition with just the subtle threat of something violently happening to that individual or to those human beings based upon previous conduct. i say we politicians when we utter the words should assume the responsibility for the end product of those words if some deranged person decides to implement those words in their fullest meaning. that bachmann woman should be responsible for whatever occurs as a result of somebody being so ip spierd and so directed by her utterance. that's the only thing, assuming responsibility, be in charge
with the responsibility is the only thing that's going to stop politicians from being irresponsible in their own utterances. >> i want to congratulate michael hirsh for running his big front page piece. i caught it this morning at my house. i think it's a very important piece. it goes back to lincoln and garfield and mckinley and the shot that took at roosevelt and the shot that almost killed teddy roosevelt, truman, the assassination of jack kennedy, the almost asass nas of reagan. the two shots one in san francisco against gerry ford. we've had a hard history. lost a lot of people, martin luther king, mall cob x, george wallace was shot. this is a very violent country politically speaking. coming up, joe lieberman is not running for re-election. this is news. the democratic left, what role
did it play in pushing this fellow out of electoral life. lieberman's gone and what does it say about the power? we thing about it all the time. can it push a -- you can call him a centrist i'll call him a hawk. you're watching hardball only on msnbc. [ female announcer ] sometimes you need tomorrow to finish what you started today. for the aches and sleeplessness in between, there's motrin pm.
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never shied from a good fight, and i never will. [ applause ] i have never sh good fight, and i never will. [ applause ] so the reason i've decided not to run for re-election in 2012 is best expressed from the wise words in ee class tee asty cease. to every time there is a season and to every purpose under heaven. >> that was joe lieberman of connecticut announcing yesterday he won't seek re-election in 2012 next year.
he says he hasn't changed but he thinks politics has. let's listen to this argument. >> i've about not always fit comfortably into conventional political boxes. maybe you've noticed that. politics of president kennedy, patriotic service to country, support of civil rights and social justice, progrowth economic and tax policies and a strong national defense are still my politics. so maybe that means that jfk wouldn't fit neatly into any of today's partisan political boxes either. >> well, josh marshal is founder of talking posts memo and our cnbc political nalist. i disagree with his use of kennedy. we didn't go to war in berlin, to cuba twice. we cut a deal and lost. he did everything he could to avoid bloodshed and also defend the country. he wasn't joe lieberman. what do you think of this?
lieberman was pushed out because he supported the iraq war and still does. >> that was the core issue but i think there was a dance that went on between lieberman and the core of the democratic party over several years and they each got under each other's skin. >> wasn't that just shoving it to the democrats? >> you know, e thing a lot of this comes from lieberman felt very bitner 2004. he thought he should at least have the kind of, you know -- he should have been a contender for the presidential primary in 2004 and he wasn't even close. and i think that that embittered him, and i think a lot of things sort of came out of that. i think that played a bigger role than people realize. >> what do you think of that, chris? you studied politics in a nonpartisan way. do you think he was ripped about the fact -- he was pretty
hawkish after the war. he should have known there was a problem. >> i think josh has a very good point here. you know, thing, look, joe lieberman was the -- this is the thing i always remind myself about joe lieberman. in an eight-year span he went from a democratic vice-presidential nominee to speaking at the republican national convention. something happened there. >> trying to get on ticket perhaps. >> politics didn't change that much. his relationship with john mccain personally wasn't that important. and i do think that race, as josh pointed out, that 2004 race, he was the 2000 vice-presidential nominee. i think he got into the 2004 race thinking i'm in the top tier of this thing. he made that now famous line, a three-way tie for third. i think that em littled him in some way, that he felt like the party had left him. chris, very quickly. the party may have left him but he clearly left the party. it's never been okay to endorse the other guy in a presidential race and speak at the other
guy's convention. >> he was all by himself. there was, quote, we were going to kick his butt. that was my translation, and it was going to feel great. i'll take it. i look at the numbers. i don't think they have a majority of the democratic party that are really that liberal or that left that you will. but they do have intensity and the question is does their intensity give them power to knock off another senator they don't like because of war policies and economic policy? >> certainly possible. the thing with the net roots is they may be a lit mrl liberal than the entirety of the democratic party but it's not just an ideological thingful it's more of the fighting spirit. yeah, they could knock off another but lieberman is sort of sue -- sui generous.
with all the bitterness he could have done stuff over the last four years that would have made it possible for him to at least have a fighting chance. >> he also says things that are not possible. there's such an ideological orthodoxy among democrats that if you're not there 100% of the time, you're not there. give me a break. he expecteds to be loved for that that. i couldn't. disagree more with what he said on "morning joe." let's listen to joe on his ridiculous defense on his foreign hawkish policy. let's listen. >> my answer is yes. my answer is yes because saddam was threatening the stability of the entire region, he'd shown that by his actions. i believe that the evidence is very clear that he was
developing weapons of mass destruction. obviously we don't have evidence that he had a big program, but the most official and comprehensive report shows that's true. he was also -- the evidence shows -- beginning really tactically to support the terrorist movements that had attacked us on 9/11. and today, to make a long story short, instead of a brutally oppressive dictator in iraq, we've got a government that was elected that's self-governing and a country that's self-defending. >> guilty, guilty, guilty. i rarely get this upset. once again using the right wing trick of conflation. if you think they we've got a nuclear in development. say so. don't say they have tactile involvement with some of these groups. every everybody knows that e were helping out hamas. nobody has any evidence that it had anything do with the groups
that attacked al qaeda. so he uses that mushy language of weapons of mass destruction, perfect lingo of "the new york times" and then he throws in this tactile -- what does this mean? you go to war because somebody's tactically involved with the regional groups. there's a lot of countries involved. tactically with terrorists. you don't go to war with them. so what kind of bs is he shoveling at us now, my question to you, chris soliza, nonpartisan chris soliza. >> here's what i would say. that statement is vintage lieberman. i'm not asking you to like it or not like it. he views himself as acting out of moral wreckty attitude thats heing atting morally. i want to quickly go back to what josh said too, which i think is important. joe lieberman did this to joe lieberman. if in 2006 he said, you know
what, democrats, i hear what you have to say lerkts me reexamine that and spend the next six years fixing that problem, he could have won. he does not pass the political smell test that he would run from a fight. >> that post nasal drip he does that's so serious and oh, god, i understand your feelings. to me it's an act, i'm sorry. he's a money of the right. he's in the wrong party. >> when he's saying this stuff about as you call it conflation you're talking don rumsfeld. he's past that. ex-president bush isn't. it's almost sad to see -- that's like 2004, man. >> i like joe lieberman but i disagree completely. i'm sorry. i like him but i distay degree. >> it comes more that politics is about doing the morally right thing. he believe this is morally right
thing and he's not going to walk away from it. >> i think he thinks if he did it it must be moral. >> voice of the oracle of feebs. thank you. i'm falling in love with you. i thought buchanan had the right question for him. i think his answer was unconsidered. anyway, good luck, joe lieberman. i do agree it's time to move on for a lot of these guys. i think a lot of them say past their fresh dates, their sell dates. still ahead, we're going to hit on john f. kennedy's famous words. let's listen. >> ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your country. [ applause ] >> where did that great president get that great construction, ask not ask. let's figure it out. i think i've got it figured out. [ male announcer ] a chicken coop:
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time for the side show. lawmakers are making analogies. exhibit a. yesterday on the house floor, he compare the passage of health care reform to the reign of king george iii. >> i took an oath to uphold the constitution. this team last year as a member of the virginia house of delegates defending that constitution i was proud to cast my vote for house bill 10, which mandated no virginian shall be required to buy health insurance. as virginians, we did not accept the change of george iii, nor will we accept the change of obama care. >> okay, patrick henry, can we just disagree on the bill
itself? constitutes colonial rule by george iii? now earlier this week he compared republican pushed back on health care to the lies put out by joseph goebbels. let's listen. >> it's a big lie, just like goebbels. you say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, and eventually people believe it, like blood libel. that's the same kind of thing. the germans said enough about the jews, and the people believed it, and you had the holocaust. >> another one. he apologizes to anyone he oh phenned. maybe he did or didn't. he insist head never called the republicans nazis. what a swell fellow he is. my experience tells me the moment you mention nazis or the
holocaust to the opponent use're in big trouble already. speaking of john boehner's most biggest character riis tick, he cries in public. >> i spent my whole life chasing the american dream. i thought myself through school, working every rotten job there was, and every night shift i could find, and i poured my heart and soul into running a small business. [ applause ] >> well, is what you see a negative. >> not necessarily. 27% of the ohio voters found his crying a weakness while 36%, higher number home state gives him a thumbs up. they say cry me a river big
number. i like the american people. they're a lot nicer than some people think. up next do chinese parents do a better job at raising kids than americans? what heated debate. a new book by a chinese-american mother raising two kids and it's cause add big stir. tiger mothers and what they mean for american competitiveness next. what a strange topic for hardball only on msnbc. a tool where people can enter the terms of the refinance offer they got from their mortgage guy, and know instantly if they're getting bamboozled. and i will start after lunch...tomorrow. don't just think about it. introducing lendingtree's free "look before you lock" tool. enter the terms of your existing loan offer
from citi, though today we get interesting news from google. google is going ahead and shaking things up on the management side here and co-founder larry page is taking over as ceo. larry schmidt is stepping down as chairman. sergei will still remain there. hp also shaking up their board today. five new board members coming in, including ebay ceo meg whitman. that's all for now. back to "hardball with chris matthews." 50 years later, our generation's sputnik moment is back. this is our moment. >> wow. our sputnik moment is back. welcome back to hardball. point out we're in a race now.
look at the space race with the russians. just like it. >> the hard truth is this. in the race for the future, america is in danger of falling behind. you've got a billion people in india who are suddenly plugged into the world economy. you've got over a billion people in china wo are suddenly plugged in to the global economy. and that means competition is going to be much more fierce, and the winners of this competition will be the countries that have the most educated workers. >> well now comes a new book that's going to shake everybody up. it's on parenting by a chinese-american mother whose approach to raising her daughters might remind you of "mommy dearest." her kids are superstars but her treatment is so severe. they couldn't have sleepovers, they couldn't have playdates.
they couldn't be in a school play. they had to get an a. they weren't the number one in every subject except in gym and drama. they were in trouble. she calls herself a tiger mother and the method is on time's cover story. is a this what america wants or needs? >> we have michelle and chief correspondent for i village most of you. michelle bernard, do you want to be mommy dearest? does the end justify the means. does terrorizing a kid if it gets h imto be a virtuoso piano player or a scientist is it worth it? >> i don't think amy chua is mommy dearest. some of her methods is too strict but she talks about being a chinese mother is not necessarily being chinese. she said she's met many ghanaians, jamaicans and others of cultured nations that are,
quote/unquote chinese mothers. the nation suffer bass they don't push their children. i think you make a mistake when you say it's okay to be second or third. why not be first who wants to be second? i am. >> score one for the tiger mom. >> everyone's a winner in our household. >> do you give trophies. >> even if you come in last. no, i think what's so interesting about this story is kind of -- yeah, there was an outrage about this mother and the tactics she had with her kids but i think part of the outrage is what does this say about mothers? mothers are insecure anyway. what does it say about us? are we too touchy feely? are we too lax? are we not doing a good enough job? maybe the moms are saying maybe it's not so bad. >> let's look at the worldwide score here. a survey of 15-year-old's in these industrialized countries
ranked the 14th in reading. shanghai was first. in science, united states was 7th. in math, 25th. here again shanghai, singe a pore, hong kong, korea topped the nation. they're all asian countries. here's president obama on education. let's listen. >> i sat down with president li of south korea and i asked him what's the biggest problem you had in education? he said, you know, these parents, they come to me and they're constantly pressuring me. they want their kids to learn so fast, so much. >> you know, michelle, we all watch this. we look at the best schools in america, and we see people who are maybe one generation parents come here from asia, south asia, far east asia, and they make it -- they make it within one generation. they're there. they're at the very top of american academic life. what are they doing different? they must be doing something to achieve the goal. >> there is -- it depends on the
culture, but, you know, in many of these cultures you will see that from day one you're embedded with this sense of bringing honor to your family. you are told from day one that education is absolutely the key to achieving success anywhere in the world that you live. and a lot of times you look at people, particularly immigrants coming from other countries to the united states and they're leaving horrible, horrible countries. they realize something we don't always realize as home grown americans that without the best education you can possibly get you're going to have great difficulty in this country and as we go toward a more global economy, i don't have the luxury, particularly i will say in the african-american community, with don't have the luxury of sitting around and saying to our children, you know, it's okay if you come in last. you want your children to say there is absolutely nothing i can achieve and i want to be first, i want to be president, not vice president. i want to own the basketball team, not be the basketball
player. >> i have a good measure of fatalism in me. i accept the fact that some are better than others. the disciplined kids have their discipline and the other may have advantage in creativitity. i don't think steven spielberg was 4.0. i don't think he went to yale. look at bill gates. >> i wouldn't ask them for an original idea because i wouldn't get one, but that's my american attitude. >> right. i mean i think some of i hear what michelle is saying and obviously we all sort of want to demand the best for our kids but there are bigger issues here at work in terms of u.s. competitivene competitiveness, chris, we know that. we know the step of american schools and teacher salaries and what we need to do and i think, of course, in our household and i think there's more at stake and there's something to be thought of. if everyone in this country -- >> slightly neurotic kid that got into harvard or a slightly
happier kid that went to a regular school, michelle bernard, if you could be happier or better ahead, which would you want to go with? >> i would want them to be happier. they'll be better if they're in a better position to take care of themselves than rehigh on anybody else snow that's it. what that's what the chinese mother said. >> i'm a chinese mother. >> here's what's so interesting. some things are fun to do as you practice it. no kid ever complained about practicing basketball. regular school yard with your buddies on the playground. it's fun to play basketball and you get better and better and it's always fun. but there is no fun the first five years of piano or violin. it is just work. >> right. and also, you know, maybe if you're only giving your kid five, ten years of piano, maybe she's an artist in another way or thinker or great writer. >> exclusively you can get the
girl if you play the piano. that's the argument. i don't know if that's true. michelle, this is a lively discussion. kelly wallace. thank you. we like an argument. >> any time. >> 50 years ago president kennedy in spired a new generation of americans to serve as he himself was sworn into office. >> ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your country. [ applause ] . >> a little later in the show i'm going to try to up lock a big mystery of the origin of that wonderful construction. ask not ask. this is hard ball only on msnbc.
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and somy my -- my fellow and so my fellow americans ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your country. >> what a moment that was. that was, of course, john f. kennedy speaking 50 years ago today on a crisp cold afternoon in washington with snow all around. it was a courier & ives day. that was the speech, best ever
zbif given. i think it was one of the best. here he is, great times speech writer and thurston clark has written a great book "ask nos:the inauguration of john f. kennedy and the speech that changed america." when you first heard it, what did it say to you, because it think it had a different reaction immediately than the one that developed over time. your thoughts when your first heard it. >> when i heard it two veterans of the world war ii generation burst into tears. they were powerful words. i was only 14. i thought words that could make adults that fought in world war ii cry, they had to be powerful words. that stayed with me all my life, that image. >> i love the line in your book where you said a young woman joined the peace corpse in the '60s. she said no one ever asked me
before. >> that's right. for your me it was the civil rights movement, and i got involved in voter rights and civil rights. i was at selma, and i think that the speech is what motivated me. >> i like about it because i think sometimes when people -- with the president, i won, you lost, it's all mine. here kennedy says i want this whole generation involved. he wanted everybody in uh involved. and everybody he didn't know hey, join the peace corps. >> thurston's book, by the way, is a fabulous book. i've read it, and if you care about the power of words or the poetry of politics, you need to read it. >> and the best thing is you can read it in a couple of days. that's what i always say about any book. >> kennedy, i don't know if he understood that he was summoning not just a new generation, but he was summoning generations to come. >> television. >> what happened is that he widened and deepened and
enriched our conception of what america is. i mean, lincoln did that, the roosevelts did that, ronald reagan from the other side of the spectrum did that. and that's why i think it endures so powerfully 50 years on. thursday son said he was drawn into the civil rights movement, but that activism widened out to all the causes he bought then. >> let's go to the more troubling language. i think it is considerably more hawkish than the rest of the speech. here he is giving the lines that many people believe led to vietnam. here it is. let's listen. >> let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend,
oppose any foe to ensure the survival and success of liberty. this much we pledge and more.0m. i think he was a balanced leader who was trying to avoid bloodshed. your thoughts? >> i call him a nonviolent co-warrior. in fact, he would not pay any price or bear any burden. he would not on five different
occasions, his advisers wanted him to send combat units to vietnam. every single time he refused. the rest of the speech was an invitation to negotiation, a reduction of tensions. and the newspapers at the time understood this. the headlines the next day weren't about the sabre rattling, cold war speech. they were all kennedy, new quest for peace. kennedy's peace speech. >> bob shrum? >> well, i think you have to take the end of that sentence, to ensure the survival and success of liberty. when he was pressed in cuba to do a first strike, he said don't have to do that. his strength combined with strength probably saved the world during the cuban missile crisis. then you move on to that to the test ban treaty which i regard as the beginning of the end of the cold war. >> it wasn't that popular. he stuck his neck out and said we're going to begin to find peace with the soviets. >> you know because you're writing about this now, when he went to american university
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>> they're very few words in the speech if you time it. let's listen now on the 50th anniversary. >> ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your country. >> i'm working on a book now of jack kennedy for simon & shus r shuster. john kennedy attended chote school in connecticut. the headmaster was george st. john. the first page of his notebook contains a portion of an essay by dean la baron briggs who was kennedy's dean at harvard. in and out of college, the man with ideals helps, as far as in him lies, his college and his country. as his often been said, the youth who loves his alma mater will always ask not what can she
do for me, but what can i do for her? i also have a letter written to this school 25 years ago, complaining to the school that kennedy had, quote, plagiarized the headmaster's phrase. i think it's an absurd complaint. students are supposed to remember what their teachers tell them. ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. people joined the services, the apolo program and more importantly, the peace corps. that certainly changed this young american. service involves work, but not necessarily sacrifice. in my case, it was one wild never to be forgotten adventure. sergeant shriver who just died as i said the other night had much to do with taking his brother-in-law's words and turning them into an exciting organization. i remember the moment that brought the whole magic of kennedy together, a fellow peace corps guy, steve hank, now a professor at the university of new orleans sat on a hillside with his people from his village